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PostSubject: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyMon 27 Jul 2009, 3:27 am

Ok, I finally got some time to upload some pics of the new additions that I just got from Ken.


First up is the one labeled as the OBT "gold phase", but doesn't look like an OBT to me....


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My C. elegans 1" and unsure of sex, looks female, I don't see any hooks or palps, but the vent area is TINY. Also this little one thinks it's arboreal, I'm always seeing it at the top of it's cube.


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OBT sling, that was a freebie I was owed from my last order with ken...


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B.emilia another freebie I Was given because the OBT was forgotten in the last order, can't even tell what it is yet. This bugger was the HARDEST one to get pics of, it refused to stand still.


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The E. uatuman, is looking male to me and is in need of a molt.


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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyMon 27 Jul 2009, 8:28 am

OHHH.......so thats what the gold phase looks like
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyMon 27 Jul 2009, 8:50 am

Well I'm not sure, Mike and ken weren't really sure themselves, and said it could be another species all together.

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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyMon 27 Jul 2009, 10:11 am

whatever it is.....i want it LOL
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyMon 27 Jul 2009, 6:42 pm

Ah it's P. murinus TCF. There was a lot of these going about Europe at the start of the year. Very nice looking spider.
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyMon 27 Jul 2009, 6:59 pm

I have to agree Jimmy, a truly gorgeous spider Smile

I really must get some pictures take on my lot, it is seriously overdue
and I know how much we all like pictures!!
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyTue 28 Jul 2009, 3:30 am

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Ah it's P. murinus TCF. There was a lot of these going about Europe at the start of the year. Very nice looking spider.


TCF? Tan Color Form? Thanks very much for the ID, Now I just have to make up my mind what sex it is, given the size of it 4.5"+ , and myself wanting to be hopefull I see female, no hooks or palps either. It could use a bit of fattening up, and maybe a nice molt too.

Wonder if I can find more of these, first one I've ever seen and a very pretty spider. If I can't find another, what do you think about breeding it to my male? Or if it's a male, wait for it to mature and breed it to a orange female, if I still can't find the same color form by then?

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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyTue 28 Jul 2009, 5:49 am

what would happen if you breed it with a orange one

would you get some TCF's too......aswell has normal phases
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyTue 28 Jul 2009, 7:01 am

that would be cross breeding
NO HYBRIDS!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyTue 28 Jul 2009, 7:04 am

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that would be cross breeding
NO HYBRIDS!!!!

?????

same species breeding is hybrids?

thats like breeding a pied ball python with a normal..
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyTue 28 Jul 2009, 7:08 am

Yes this wouldn't be a hybrid if the same species.
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyTue 28 Jul 2009, 8:36 am

It wouldn't be hybridizing as such as they are the same species however it would be intraspecific hybridization which IMO is just as bad. The hobby really doesn't need any more man made intergrades muddying the waters.
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyTue 28 Jul 2009, 8:53 am

Franklin wrote:
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that would be cross breeding
NO HYBRIDS!!!!

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same species breeding is hybrids?

thats like breeding a pied ball python with a normal..
ive always thought there really wernt such thing as morphs in tarantulas
like, they will look similar but different colors, so i always considered them as different species
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyTue 28 Jul 2009, 7:29 pm

I have seen people breeding RCF and NCF rosies and I always thought is was wrong to do that,
so thankyou for clearing that up guys Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyWed 29 Jul 2009, 12:48 am

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I have seen people breeding RCF and NCF rosies and I always thought is was wrong to do that,
so thankyou for clearing that up guys Smile
i personally still think its wrong
there is no proof that ncf and rcf rosies are the same species
same genus, yes
but not the same species
so....no crossbreeds please


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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyWed 29 Jul 2009, 3:16 am

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I have seen people breeding RCF and NCF rosies and I always thought is was wrong to do that,
so thankyou for clearing that up guys Smile


I've heard this too, and have heard mixed opinions on this as well. The ones who think it's ok, well at least some, say that when the babies are being sold, that the seller should let buyers know they are crossed.

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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyWed 29 Jul 2009, 3:55 am

ummm....well

i bought a OBT sling that was labled as RCF

then he matured

then i got a MF for him....which was NCF

so I bred them
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyWed 29 Jul 2009, 4:51 pm

and how did that turn out?

what sort of colours did you get?

I know it isnt the right thing to do, but in the name of science???
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyThu 30 Jul 2009, 8:19 am

well i just bred them

........she might be gravid or not i dont know

How does a RCF look?

The male was labled as RCF but, im not sure if he really is

you know the way the pet stores are

some of them dont know a thing about there animals

So i dont know, does he look like RCF to you.......you tell me

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i'll try and get a better picture

for now thats all i got
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptyFri 31 Jul 2009, 7:49 pm

mine look very very orange, but I have one that is slightly paler, perhaps that is the difference,

the best person for this is Bird Man,

he has more OBT's than anyone Razz
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PostSubject: Re: New addition pictures   New addition pictures EmptySat 01 Aug 2009, 2:06 am

Well from that pic, no it doesn't look RCF, more like dull orange, looks just like my male.

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